PPR Geneva

[rupert]

An interesting story emerged yesterday. A UK crew flew into Zurich and dropped one passenger, they then had a PPR into Geneva that would require them to wait in Zurich for over two hours. The Captain asked the handling agent if there was anything they could do to help them depart earlier. The agnent then made several calls and told the captain he was good to depart in twenty minutes.

The crew departed from Zurich to Geneva without any mention of the PPR from either ATC controller. When on the ground, the Captain was asked to go to ATC and was reprimanded. His license was copied and told that he violated the PPR. No fine was imposed, however they had the discretion to do so.

It is interesting that all this occured within Swiss airspace and that no communication was in place to stop the flight. Does anyone have any experience of this and should the handling agent had more responsibility in notifying the crew? :confused:

[AaR]

An interesting story emerged yesterday. A UK crew flew into Zurich and dropped one passenger, they then had a PPR into Geneva that would require them to wait in Zurich for over two hours. The Captain asked the handling agent if there was anything they could do to help them depart earlier. The agnent then made several calls and told the captain he was good to depart in twenty minutes.

The crew departed from Zurich to Geneva without any mention of the PPR from either ATC controller. When on the ground, the Captain was asked to go to ATC and was reprimanded. His license was copied and told that he violated the PPR. No fine was imposed, however they had the discretion to do so.

It is interesting that all this occured within Swiss airspace and that no communication was in place to stop the flight. Does anyone have any experience of this and should the handling agent had more responsibility in notifying the crew? :confused:


The captain is the ultimate authority and should ensure that he has satisfactory paperwork to perform the flight. I don't see how the departing controller could know whether such and such field is PPR or not. The arrival controller probably had better things to do than lash the crew on the frequency.

[tomekp]

Hi,

Normally OPS are in charge of arranging A/P slots, PPR's and should inform the crew about what's been arranged. Airports do not have to inform each other about inbound-outbound slots, if the is no central coordination system. There will be no such problem in Spain, where Madrid is coordinating slots for all airports.

BRGDS!

Tomek